Gagliano was the central figure in the Adscam debacle which ultimately undid two Liberal Prime Ministers, though both deny that essential and plainly obviously fact. He was also named by FBI snitch and career mobster Frank Lino, as a "made" guy and member of the Bonnano crime family.
Is it true? I don't know. But I do know that he had much to cozy a relationship with Augustino Cuntrera when he was the accountant for some companies of the family dubbed the "Rothchilds of the Mafia." He was also a founding member, along with Cuntrera, and on the executive of a "club" called the Siculiana / Cattolica Eraclea Society in the 90's. I also know that Lino had no reason to lie at that point.
Gagliano came out denying it all in the media claiming Italian discrimination. Really, it's all a plot against the Italians. He threatened a lawsuit, but none was forthcoming. One suspects that was because he could never allow himself to be cross-examined on the question. Unlike our Human Rights kangaroo courts - oops sorry - tribunals, in civil court the truth is an absolute defence.
Well, the "Godfather" of Parliament no longer has his "walk and talks" out behind the Parliamentary library as he smokes his cigars. But apparently, he is still able to reach into the bowels of government and extract his "taste" as needed.
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"What proof do you have to back up your statement other than highlighting the fact that he's a Canadian of Italian Origin?"
That he is of Italian origin is beside the point.
He has been fingered as a mobster and has not defended himself.
He was at the very center of ADScam.
He was / is a prominent member of the national socialist "Liberal" party.
What else do we need to know about the guy?
Why is this clown getting a 1/2 million dollars fromt he gov't?
What else do we need to know about him?
"He has been fingered as a mobster."
By who? The police? A court of law? A credible source?
"He was at the very center of ADScam."
Says who? Was he convicted as others were? Was he even charged?
Once again, how is he more corrupt than Thatcher, Duplessis or Bernston?
Racism allegation still stands.
Italian is not a race.
I stand corrected.
Bigotry allegation stands.
...wow by everyone jumping to defend Mr. Gagliano, you'd wonder if the readers were Liberal shrills.
While innocent till proven guilty, it is nice to see the shoe on the other foot where the Liberals have to prove their worth first.
Oh, interesting tidbit.
Google this:
"cuntrera caruana alfonso gagliano"
h/t kelly.
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"in and out scandal tories"
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"bernier scandal"
Anybody who would say that members of their country of origin is a race all on its own, its undoubtedly racist towards anybody not of their 'race'. Imagine if 'the French' didn't consider themselves caucasian, they were French, it would be like an insult to label them caucasian. And as we mix peoples together in countries, that label becomes further blurred. Forget about the moors and whatnot, the Italians today are simply not the Romans. The Romans were driven out into what is now England, Russia, Romania, etc.
But evidently, there still exists the bigotry and facism which we commonly associate with "Italians" which hasn't changed since WW2. But is that discrimination, or as he put it, racism? If anybody wants their image to change for people, it should start with themselves setting a better example, and this goes for anybody. This is common sense, and applies to every person on the planet who may believe that their race (or country of origin) is above all others, somehow or some way. Nobody can say that a particular country is more advanced because their science is driven by multinationals and supported by a sufficient economy driven by multinationals, or are using equipment that has been developed elsewhere. And those facts alone should squelch any notions of superiority.
And the whole issue with non-whites having some sort of free racism card is ridiculous, like only whites can be racist. Racism is racism, so get over it.
And the whole minority thing where they group all the whites together as one group, yet there are dozens of other "minority groups" which is what makes them label themselves as minorities, is simply reverse discrimination. They want to continue discriminating themselves, thats their problem. I'll start hyphenating my status too. I'm not white, I'm jewish, even if I may not be. I'm not Canadian, I'm Italian-Canadian, even though my family has lived here for 5 generations.
We should be 'dividing' ourselves based on culture, if we are to divide ourselves at all. It is culturally unacceptable to sneeze without covering your mouth, to begin with!!! I have no idea where this will end. But if you don't want to belong to Canada as a non-hyphenated Canadian, then you do not believe in Canadian values, and you should be thrown out.
Be like us when you come here, do not expect us to be like you.
When you're in Rome, do as the Romans do. (translated from Latin, not Italian)
"But evidently, there still exists the bigotry and facism which we commonly associate with "Italians" which hasn't changed since WW2."
Further proves bigotry alive and well on this blog.
Anyway, back to the point. For the third and final time, how is Mr. Gagliano more corrupt than a convicted murderer, a convicted fraudster or the individual who is responsible for Canadian law governing abuse of power?
what could he sue for? slander, libel? i don't think so. if he could he would have. the truth may be painful to some but even more painful to gagliano.
No truth here. Just some folks who think that every Canadian of Italian origin is Tony Soprano's cousin.
Ciao.
I also have a vineyard in Dunham Quebec. What gets to me about this story is that I spent years learning how to grow grapes and making wine. What are his qualifications that assisted him to get funds to do something in which he has no training or education to do.
Also, to get a winery license in Quebec is no small thing. The background checks and having the necessary capital to do such a project is a must. I am perplexed that he was able to overcome this obstacle.
"Further proves bigotry alive and well on this blog."
Hey, I can talk about my brothers and cousins all I like. I know them better than you do. Make whatever assumptions you like, and all it proves to me is your lack of reading comprehension.
Let's take a second look:
"But evidently, there still exists the bigotry and facism which we commonly associate with "Italians" which hasn't changed since WW2."
No reading comprehension problem here. Bigotry, plain and simple.
And opinions are like anuses.
And arguing on the internet is like competing in the special olympics.. Even if you win, you're still retarded.
Better check your dictionary, buddy, your definition for bigot has nothing to do with racism or ethnicity, in fact you are sounding like an actual bigot according to the world's definition... This site cross-references multiple dictionaries:
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bigot
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(wordnet)
noun
a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own
(websters)
1. A hypocrite; esp., a superstitious hypocrite. [Obs.]
2. A person who regards his own faith and views in matters of religion as unquestionably right, and any belief or opinion opposed to or differing from them as unreasonable or wicked. In an extended sense, a person who is intolerant of opinions which conflict with his own, as in politics or morals; one obstinately and blindly devoted to his own church, party, belief, or opinion.
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So, you intolerant S.O.B., you are a hypocrite and a bigot, so go eat that for breakfast and hang your craps someplace else. We are tired of your retarded bullshit, why don't you actually open a dictionary???
So, you unquestionably right BIGOT, open your mind to everyone's point of views for a change instead of hurling what you believe are insults at people.
Actually, this has got to be a joke, somebody is just trying to get me riled up so they can file litigation or something. Man, you almost had me there, I didn't really think anybody was that stupid. I mean jeez, everybody's got a dictionary and none of them mention your definition...
So let me get this straight.
Implying that all Italians are fascists is not bigoted?
Maybe back in Trogolyteville but not in Canada pal.
Give my regards to your spouse/cousin.
Aaron's absolutely correct, 'Italian' is not a race. Is somebody gonna call me a bigot now? WTF is up with that anyway?
And that whole "lets take a second look" .... That person really needs to open their eyes, taking a sentence out of context and using that as their basis for saying bigotry is alive and well? You can't use yourself to prove your statement is right, something is wrong with that thinking, thats for sure.
Seek some professional help before you start throwing a tantrum. And that line about opinions are like anuses? I know that one... Everybody's got one but nobody wants to listen to it!!!
Now lets see here... Lets use that line of thinking...
"By who? The police? A court of law? A credible source?" -- BIGOT
"... how is Mr. Gagliano more corrupt than a convicted murderer ... ?" -- BIGOT
"No reading comprehension problem here." -- BIGOT
"Implying that all Italians are fascists is not bigoted?" -- BIGOT
One guy said, and I quote, "... evidently, there still exists the bigotry and facism which we commonly associate with..." which is the only time facism was mentioned. This is much removed from saying italians are all facists! I have no idea where that came from... but... SWING AND A MISS.
Hey this is fun.....
I agree. Outing bigots is a blast.
Now let's wrap this up with some truths.
1. Nobody has been able to answer why Mr. Gagliano is "quite possibly the most corrupt politician this country has ever seen" (See Thatcher, Duplessis, etc.)
2. Bigotry runs rampant on this blog.
3. You are a genuine backwoods shitkicking 5-chromosomed Trogolyte!
Ok, truths.
1) The answer you are seeking is cleverly hidden with two specific words, "quite possibly." Certainly, the other mentioned politicians could also, quite possibly, be the most corrupt..
2) Agreed, but surely some or most of it was merely misinterpreted, but I accept your opinion.
3) Trogolyte? I know what a troglodyte is, but perhaps you are referring to people with multiple copies of particular chromosomes, such as #21..
Yes that's it. Your a troglodyte.
Thanks for clearing that up.
You're a troglodyte.
That's better.
Isn't it interesting how the trendy lib/lefty higher purpose people resort to calling people names when they run out of ground in their arguments? Just an observation . . . .
What arguments?
That bigotry does not concern ethnic groups?
That Mr. Gagliano is QUITE POSSIBLY more corrupt than Colin Thatcher and Maurice Duplessis?
That calling all Italians facsists may just be MISINTERPRETED as bigotry?
I have to tell you Mr. Knight, I'm of the school of thought that holds once a Canadian police officer is sworn in, that police officer continues to be a beacon of justice and tolerance in our communities for life, even when they no longer serve on the force. As I mentioned earlier, the police officers I know are indeed the finest and would never put up with the blatant predjudice and bigotry on this blog. The fact that you would choose to direct your attacks towards someone whose calling out predjudice, rather than sending a clear message that you will not allow predjudiced and bigoted comments towards an identifiable group, is a profound disappointment.
There is nothing bigotted about what I'm saying. Deal with the argument. Gagliano was the bookeeper for the mobster Augustino Cuntrera. He was responsible for laundering his money, that is what accountants do for organized crime. He is from the same small village that is how they know each other. They formed a society together which got fed money and each served as president. An admitted mobster testified that Gagliano was a "made" man. I didn't say that, Frankie Lino said that and he said it under oath. I could go on, but those are the highlights. You can call me all the names you want, I don't give a toss. But the facts are the facts.
"He was responsible for laundering money."
Says who? Court of law? Police? Credible Source?
"An ADMITTED MOBSTER testified that Gagliano was a "made" man."
Yup, that's a credible source.
"Frankie Lino said that and he said it under oath."
So if an admitted member of the CRIPS says, under oath, that a prominant member of the Latino community is a gang banger, we take their word for it.
No arguments or facts to deal with.
Referring to Mr. Gagliano as "Godfather of Parliament" and his "taste" are bigoted acts, plain and simple.
"Says who? Court of law? Police? Credible Source?"
Is this a court of law? These allegations, if untrue, should be fought, but apparently there was sufficient evidence beyond reasonable doubt. Should we continue doubting and call everything a conspiracy? Where would that get us? What do you have to gain for disputing these arguments?
"Yup, that's a credible source."
If it wasn't credible enough for their liking it would have been thrown out. From my perspective, if you had been the judge you would be throwing everything out. My position is unbiased, while yours is clearly biased towards the defense.
"So if an admitted member of the CRIPS says..."
Now you're comparing a trusted lifelong member of an organized crime family to a common ignorant street thug with a 50-word vocabulary. The difference, you may ask? This Frankie Lino, I have no idea who he is, but clearly he's putting himself at some quantifiable risk. So why would he be lying?
"No arguments or facts to deal with."
What do you know that we don't? Just because we don't have as much information about all of this as apparently you do, doesn't mean we cannot discuss this in an OPEN FORUM FOR DEBATE WITHOUT NAMECALLING. Where did you grow up? If all officers have the same "school of thought" as you have demonstrated, then how can you not accept a judicial decision? Did your opinions ever get in the way of somebody's right to a fair trial? Are you saying this is not a fair trial?
Instead of simply attacking people, elucidate yourself. The only facts we have to deal with are the ones published in the media. Not all minds have the capability to look beyond all that leftist spin, but a trained mind can still recognize the facts.
If you have a real problem with court proceedings then why don't you go out on the streets and protest like any other citizen. Its your right.
"What do you have to gain for disputing these arguments?"
Truth, justice and taking a step forward to ending bigotry and hate in Canada. I don't know the man and i don't know what he's done or hasn't done. But based on what is being spun as "facts" I know when an individual is being unfairly tagged simply because he belongs to a particular ethnic group.
"From my perspective, if you had been the judge you would be throwing everything out."
Any Canadian judge would throw out everything you're passing off as "facts."
"a trusted lifelong member of an organized crime family"
No such thing exists.
"What do you know that we don't? Just because we don't have as much information about all of this as apparently you do. . ."
I'm basing my comments solely on what's being presented as "facts."
"Where did you grow up?"
Born and raised in Canada.
"Are you saying this is not a fair trial?"
Mr. Gagliano is not on trial.
"If you have a real problem with court proceedings . . ."
No problem with court proceedings. Huge problem with bigotry and hate.
The guy has links to mob crime families, look him up, do a google search the answers are easy to find.
If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck..it's a duck......
A google search also provides these "answers":
1. There's a relationship between Elvis and Aliens,
2. Apollo 11 Moon landing was faked by NASA,
3. John McCain is connected to the Mob.
Well if any of those were the topic we were discussing you might have a point, but since its not you don't. There is a difference between doing research and watching too many old X-files re-runs. But I'm sure you think the Hells Angels are a mis-understood group of motor cycle enthusiasts as well. ( By the way if you do some research you can find two different schools of thought on the HA ie: organised crime/misunderstood good ole boys that share a love of motorcycles in common, now if you have any brains you should be able to figure out which is true)or you can continue to vote liberal.
Ahh name calling the refuge of the ignorant, but your right you did out me as a bigot. I freely admit that I am a bigot when it comes to anyone of any age,race,creed,religion sexual orientation who's a criminal or associates with criminals I despise them all equally.
But if it makes you happy to name call because you cannot argue the facts of the issue go ahead.
Nice try pal.
The simple fact of the matter (and the whole point of this back and forth) is an irresponsible and bigoted statement was put forward implying that Mr. Gagliano is possibly more corrupt than a convicted murderer, a convicted fraudster or the individual who is responsible for Canadian law governing abuse of power. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY has been able to back up the argument.
Rather than admitting that the statement may have been extreme, we get more bigoted, ridiculous and nonsensical arguments put forward. Remember, when you're in a hole, stop digging.
Thats why I encourage people to do thier own research, there's a lot of information about this guy on the net. When the FBI is using him as a witness because he has working knowlege of the internal dealing of a mob family you have to ask yourself...how'd he get so knowledgable?
I don't care what his background is, but I do care that he's still accessing the government money pot re: his new winery, and since he's lived in the US since 2006 why's he coming back now?
In my opinion he is a national embarassment and should be treated as such, I don't want him to go away mad....just go away.
Wikpedia contains some interesting information on him...which leads to some other sites, one of which includes images of his criminal record prior to being appointed to Paul Martins cabinet for:
Sec 16(1)(a), 19(1), 21(1)(b),21(1)(b) of the Criminal Code of Canada, former RCMP Commish Inkster recommended that he be finger printed as well prior to appointment
Did you ever stop and think that maybe after 25 years in politics, many of which was spent fighting separatists in Quebec, Mr. Gagliano may have racked up a few political enemies along the way? Enemies who would like nothing more than to destroy his reputation?
Wikipedia is a ratf##ker's tool of choice.
Remember, any jackass can point a finger.
". . .one of which includes images of his criminal record prior to being appointed to Paul Martins cabinet . . ."
BS. He would not have been able to serve in Cabinet if he had a criminal record.
Saturday, January 21, 2006
Gagliano's criminal background check
We've all heard of Alfonso Gagliano. For a reminder of his attributes, here's Paul Martin's video love letter to him.
Gagliano has a handful of critics, too. Here's the intrepid Kevin Steel's take on the Liberal boss in a recent issue of our mag.
And here, for the first time, by way of Access to Information, is the RCMP's background check on Gagliano done before Jean Chretien first appointed him to the cabinet. It is in the form of a multi-page letter from the RCMP Commissioner of the day, and is marked "SECRET" on every page.
UPDATE: By request, here is a .pdf version that includes the access to information cover letter referring to Gagliano by name.
As you can see, it is almost completely blacked out (actually, the government "whites" things out these days, to appear less heavy-handed). But enough is left to understand why Gagliano and Adscam go together like peas and carrots.
Commissioner Norman Inkster suggests that Gagliano be fingerprinted to prove or disprove the worst of his findings.
I wonder if Paul Martin will release the rest of this document. I wonder what Judge Gomery would think of it. I wonder how ethical it was to put such a man, with such a long letter of condemnation from the police, in charge of the country's public works. I wonder when Martin first knew about this, and what he did, as Canada's Finance Minister, to protect the treasury from his colleague. And I wonder why, despite all this, Martin called Gagliano a great man.
Posted by Ezra Levant on January 21, 2006 | Permalink
Google search found this in about 10 seconds, if you go to it you can view the PDF. doc which shows clearly his criminal record....So apparently you can have a record and serve in a liberal parliment, as far as his reputation... well he's a rat in my opinion so if Wikipedia outs him all the better....and by the the Westren Standard is based in Alberta so I doubt the Quebec sepertatist have much influence there.
he is what he is! a canadian of italian decent with links to organised crime....the ones who should be upset are all the other italian canadians who are sterotyped cause of his actions, and the people who elected him, and the rest of us should be asking ..How did this guy end up as our Ambassador to Denmark?
I totally agree with the last comments...it would appear that theres a lot of questions to be answered.
It seems pretty obvious this guy is what Leo said...like a previous poster said do some research...
"the PDF. doc which shows clearly his criminal record...."
The PDF document does not show he has a criminal record. More BS.
I would imagine the "white outs" deal with privacy issues.
What are you talking about? it clearly shows the sections hes been convicted of....
Having prepared that exact type of documentation myself I can say it looks like any 1 of the 100 or so I've done.
Apprently for some people it's more important to:
Admit nothing, deny everything, demand proof, make counter accusations then it is to admit that theres the possiblity that this guys a rat/dirtbag/crook because he's of italian ancestry, that is called reverse discrimination
I looked at the information on the web site , and it appears that there is a record for him, not a big fan of the Standard itself, but the Pdf.doc looks legit.
who ever posted this:
Anonymous said...
"the PDF. doc which shows clearly his criminal record...."
The PDF document does not show he has a criminal record. More BS.
I would imagine the "white outs" deal with privacy issues.
18 September, 2008 00:20
I can't help but notice that you keep firing 1 liners but produce nothing to back up your position.
I for 1 am convinced that Gagliano is exactly what Leo said.....
"I can't help but notice that you keep firing 1 liners but produce nothing to back up your position."
Where does it say on the PDF that he has a criminal record?
"I for 1 am convinced that Gagliano is exactly what Leo said....."
But of course your are. I'm sure you would have supported the execution of Sacco and Vanzetti too.
"Hurricane" Carter as well.
Thats all you got a case from the 1920's and Carter? thats just sad, I can think of several miscarriages of justice that have been cleared by DNA evidence, Guy Paul Moran comes to mind, David Millgard etc...none of which has squat to do with the topic here
But since we're dragging up old cases what about Al Capone? mob gangster or umfairly prosecuted because he was of italian background?
Carter
"It is just not legally feasible to sustain a prosecution, and not practical after almost 22 years to be trying anyone," said NJ Attorney General W. Cary Edwards
I don't see anything saying he was found innocent of the the charges or of DNA clearing him. Less Hollywood more facts please.
But since we're dragging up old cases what about Al Capone? mob gangster or umfairly prosecuted because he was of italian background?
Capone was tried and convicted in a court of law (tax evasion)through outstanding police work and using credible and admissable evidence.
No problem there.
So you got a problem. Well guess what, everybody's got a problem with every little thing. So why don't you go put yourself out of your own misery.
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